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The following letter-form was brought about as a means of teaching my children the Word of God through the mail. And of course, quite naturally so, that’s the reason I begin these letters with "Dear Children" and end them with "Love Dad". So for the rest of you who participate in these weekly messages, please keep their original intended purpose in mind.


Print/PDF29 December, 2013


Dear Children,


How time flies! I mean, after all, tomorrow will be the twelfth (12th) anniversary of our first Jimmy Swaggart sermonet that we published on 12/30/01 – “Jimmy Swaggart And The Accursed!


Now let me clue you in to a few more of the details concerning that very important sermonet. Because it was only three days later (1/2/02) that the Lord had me to mail out six (6) copies of “Jimmy Swaggart And The Accursed!” – one (1) copy to Jimmy Swaggart, and one (1) copy to each of the five (5) “accursed” mentioned in the sermonet.


And if all that wasn’t bad enough already, it was only eleven (11) days later that the Lord had me to start my journey from El Paso to Baton Rouge in order to personally meet with Jimmy Swaggart and discuss what I had written in that very important sermonet.


Well, as it concerned this whole incident with Jimmy Swaggart and “the accursed”, the unimaginable torture that the Lord was putting me through can best be summed up in two (2) little old words: “scared spit-less”. I mean, sending Jimmy Swaggart the sermonet by mail was hard enough… but having to confront him face-to-face was next to impossible! My flesh kept on saying “NO!” as the Lord continued to say “YOU MUST!” In fact it was only after arriving in Baton Rouge that Sunday night (1/13/02), and having checked into our “Motel 6” accommodations, that the Lord “encouraged” me greatly through the following Words:


Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.” (Jeremiah 1:17 KJV)


Now those are what I call “Words of encouragement” to just “do the Will of the Father”… and do it “come Hell or high water”! I mean, after all, the Lord gave me the choice to either personally confront Jimmy Swaggart the very next day or be “broken into pieces” (confounded) before “them” all. And as recorded in our 3/10/02 sermonet “The Journey Of Fear!”, this is how it all went down the following morning:


     And after that very thorough briefing Sunday night [from the Lord], we arrived at the Jimmy Swaggart SonLife Radio station bright and early Monday morning... just as the Lord had command me to do. Per His instructions I purchased the remaining three volumes needed to complete my set of the Jimmy Swaggart Commentaries (#18, #19, and #20), and the Brother and I then headed on back out to my truck to pray. It was only a short time thereafter that the Lord gave me His instructions on what we were to do next.
     Now, as the Lord would have it, we only had to wait a few minutes before Sister Swaggart drove up for her morning radio program... and that’s when I did what I had been told to do. I introduced myself first and then gave her my FMHCCI business card along with the message that "the Lord had sent us to talk with her and Brother Swaggart". I ended our very brief conversation by saying that we would be waiting for them in the lobby of the administration building. So from 9:00 until shortly before 12:00 we patiently waited for our God-called meeting... that is until one of the staff members gave us the bad news. Because what we were told was that Sister Swaggart wouldn’t be able to meet with us, however we could make an appointment for a later date.


So, there you have it. The dreadful “confrontation with Jimmy Swaggart” that didn’t even take place! However, the one thing that I didn’t mention in “The Journey Of Fear!” sermonet was the details of that early morning dreadful “confrontation with Frances Swaggart”. Because, you see, as I introduced myself to Frances Swaggart in front of the SonLife Radio station, what I saw in the “windows of her soul” was purely nothing but the Devil himself! I have never seen the “flames of Hell” in anyone’s eyes until that morning with Frances Swaggart. I saw the real Frances Swaggart that nobody’s allowed to see when the television cameras are rolling.


I mean if looks could kill, I would have been dead on the spot! But they can’t, and I wasn’t, and here it is almost twelve (12) years later that the Lord’s given us today’s sermonet to write about her. And the following Scriptural Text is what God Almighty has chosen to start out this message on Frances Swaggart and the “flames of Hell” I saw burning in her soul:


For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” (Romans 1:18-32 KJV)


Now just in case you weren’t counting, the Good Lord (through Brother Paul) listed the twenty-three (23) attributes, in verses twenty-nine (29) through thirty-one (31) of Romans chapter one (1), of the various “demonic spirits” that attach themselves to the man or woman who has sex with their own gender. The all-encompassing “sin” being described through those twenty-three (23) different attributes is what’s commonly referred to as “homosexuality”. The men are called “gays”, and the women are called “lesbians”, and the Lord God Almighty states emphatically that they are “worthy of death!” And by the way, the number twenty-three (#23) is God’s biblical number for “DEATH”!


Frances On Homosexuals


So with all that in mind, let’s now turn our attention to the 11/20/13 “Frances And Friends” show where Frances Swaggart made the following comment concerning the issue of Ray Boltz the “Christian” becoming a “homosexual:


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You know, and that’s why Brother, that’s why Brother Clary the Bible tells us not to judge. Because they are judging a person’s conduct. They’re judging this man personally. They’re judging us personally. We’re dealing with doctrinal issues and believe me there is a very big difference. But the Bible says, ‘Do not judge personal conduct and criticize people that have sin in their lives because YOU COULD BE CAUGHT THE SAME WAY’.


Now, amazingly so, that’s what Frances Swaggart had to say that the Bible has to say about Ray Boltz the “homosexual Christian”!


Do not judge personal conduct and criticize people that have sin in their lives because YOU COULD BE CAUGHT THE SAME WAY.


Frances Swaggart said that “homosexuality” is not a doctrinal issue. And the following is what Donnie Swaggart had to say about what she had to say:


No, no, no. But mother, homosexuality is doctrinal.


So I wonder where Frances Swaggart has been since the day that Jimmy Swaggart lost his credentials with the “Assembly Of God” and started his own “World Evangelism Fellowship”? I mean, after all, the following is what Jimmy Swaggart recites each and every time he “ordains” someone as a part of his “WEF” denomination:


I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine (G1322). For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (G1322); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” (2 Timothy 4:1-4 KJV)


Doctrine (G1322) [did-akh-ay'] - From G1321; instruction (the act or the matter): - doctrine, hath been taught. (Strong’s Hebrew And Greek Dictionary)


Doctrine is what it’s all about! In fact, as it concerns this thing about “preaching the Word” of Romans 1:18-32 “with all longsuffering and doctrine”, the Southern Baptist have done a fairly good job of it through their doctrinal statement on “homosexuality”:


We affirm God's plan for marriage and sexual intimacy – one man, and one woman, for life. Homosexuality is not a "valid alternative lifestyle." The Bible condemns it as sin. It is not, however, unforgivable sin. The same redemption available to all sinners is available to homosexuals. They, too, may become new creations in Christ.” (From Position Statements, Copyright (c) 1999 - 2013, Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention)


So getting back to this thing about “Ray Boltz the homosexual Christian” and Frances Swaggart placating his sin, I thank God that Donnie Swaggart stood up to his mother with doctrinal correction! But the question remains as to why in the world do you figure Frances Swaggart said what she said? I mean, was Frances Swaggart trying to win favor with the homosexual “Christian” community and become their new teacher?


For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;


That’s a very real possibility for the aspiring host of the “Frances And Friends” show! But then again, we have Frances Swaggart’s very own true confession of not wanting to judge “Ray Boltz the homosexual Christian” out of fear of “BEING CAUGHT THE SAME WAY”!


And with all that in mind, let us continue with today’s message entitled “Frances Swaggart And Her Lesbian Lovers?


Now that’s what you call a title! But oh so very true! Because it was in our sermonet “Attorney Hunter Lundy Exposes Jimmy Swaggart’s Pedophilic Tendencies!” that we included a few of the facts concerning the housewife that Jimmy Swaggart preyed upon for sexual favors back in 1987. Her name is Catherine Mary Kampen, and the following excerpt from chapter twelve (12) – “The Loudest Mailman In Town” – of Attorney Hunter Lundy’s book – “Let Us Prey – The Public Trial Of Jimmy Swaggart” – was made possible through her sworn testimony to private investigator Scott Bailey:


     Seeing how dubious she [Catherine Mary Kampen] was about his [Jimmy Swaggart’s] bid for help, he revealed that the root of his personal problems was that his wife, Frances, didn't love him, that instead, she preferred women. This caught Kampen completely off guard. She challenged him that he couldn't be sure; he said he was, that there was a woman in his congregation who was his wife's lover. He was nearly in tears when he told her this, she recalled, and she had no doubt that he believed it was true.
     "I felt kind of bad," she told Bailey. "The man looked so pathetic. When he looked at me while he was saying it, I looked him in the eyes and I knew that man wasn't lying. A man is not going to admit something like that unless it's really true because that's a blow to his ego. A woman with another man is a blow, but a man can tolerate that. But a woman with another woman. . .How can you compete with something like that?"


So, in 1987, Jimmy Swaggart confessed to one of his many sexual victims – Catherine Mary Kampen – that his wife “Frances” is a “lesbian”. Jimmy Swaggart let it be known that his wife “Frances” wasn’t satisfying his sexual needs because she was being sexually fulfilled through another woman in his congregation.


Shocking, to say the least! I mean, “Who would have ever imagined(?)” that such God-forbidden sexual atrocities were going on in the lives of Jimmy and Frances Swaggart?


Well, the answer to that “Who” question should be fairly obvious. I mean, after all, the Lord God Almighty is “all-knowing”. And in order to help us better understand what was going on behind the scenes at that time, we have the following testimony from Evangelist Ken Peters:


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“One year before Jimmy Swaggart – Brother Jimmy Swaggart – fell, God told me ‘I’m going to bring him down if he doesn’t repent of his ways of judging my people.’ He said, ‘And I will use what the book of Proverbs says, that when a man falls into immorality he’s been found wanting in the scales of righteousness.’ The Bible says ‘judge not lest you be judged’. That man judged, almost every one of his sermons, other ministries, other people of God, and God had to expose him.”


Now did you grab hold of that last sentence? It’s very important! Because, you see, the very next “minister” that Jimmy Swaggart just so happened to “judge”, (at the time that God gave this Word to Evangelist Ken Peters), was none other than “Marvin Gorman”. And the reason that Jimmy Swaggart judged Marvin Gorman was in order to “take him out of the picture”… as in get rid of yet another “televangelist”.


Without a doubt, Jimmy Swaggart was playing “dirty pool” with Marvin Gorman! And this is right about the place that Attorney Hunter Lundy enters Marvin Gorman’s “picture” as his legal representative in a ninety million dollar ($90,000,000) defamation lawsuit against Jimmy Swaggart. In fact the legal proceedings in this court case lasted four and one-half (4 1/2) years and gathered plenty of “dirty laundry” on “Jimmy Swaggart and his ministry crew” along the way. Hallelujah!!!


So it’s due to the fact that Jimmy Swaggart didn’t stop “judging other ministers” in 1986, that we now have the documented evidence needed to prepare this sermonet of today. And, of course, this documented evidence that I’m referring to is contained in the 1999 book published by Attorney Hunter Lundy: “Let Us Prey – The Public Trial Of Jimmy Swaggart”. In fact the following very informative overview can be found on the back dust cover of that same book:


     Let Us PreyIn retrospect, it was inevitable that two men such as Jimmy Swaggart and Marvin Gorman could not coexist in such close proximity to one another. They were both evangelists within the same denomination who commanded the loyalty and admiration of their respective followers. They both had burgeoning ministries, one already spanning the globe, the other with aspirations of a world-wide ministry. The only question was which of these men of God would initiate the battle for dominance and reveal himself not as a minister of grace, but as a prophet of prey.
     LET US PREY will take you behind the scenes of the battle that began in the ecclesiastical courts of one of the largest Protestant denominations in America, moved to the civil courts of the State of Louisiana, and culminated in one of the most publicized and controversial episodes in the history of the modern Church. From a scripted "exorcism" which revealed Marvin Gorman as a demon from hell, to Swaggart's systematic campaign within the Assemblies of God to portray Gorman as a habitual adulterer, and finally to Gorman's $90,000,000 defamation suit against Swaggart, the truth about Jimmy Swaggart's lust for power and wealth, his penchant for prostitutes and strippers, his voyeurism and pedophilic tendencies, are all revealed for the first time.


Jimmy Swaggart stepped over the line when he took on Marvin Gorman! Jimmy Swaggart tried to defame Marvin Gorman through lies and half-truths, but God Almighty turned the tables by using Marvin Gorman to expose the real “whoremongering televangelist” by the name of Jimmy Swaggart. Because it was only seven (7) months into his defamation lawsuit against Jimmy Swaggart that the Lord directed Marvin Gorman to capture the “photographic evidence” that would later be used to prove Jimmy Swaggart’s habitual and never-ending sexual immorality with the prostitutes. In fact the following is what Jimmy Swaggart confessed to Marvin Gorman on the day (10/17/87) that he got caught with Debra Murphree:


Jimmy Swaggart


I’ve been doing this for twenty-eight (28) years. I have chased prostitutes in every city where I’ve held revival.


So God finally said, “Enough is enough!”… and Jimmy Swaggart got exposed… and He used the “Marvin Gorman/Attorney Hunter Lundy” team to do it… and it’s all been documented in the book “Let Us Prey – The Public Trial Of Jimmy Swaggart”.


Swaggart And Gorman


And having said all that, we can now address the issue of “Frances Swaggart and her lesbian lovers” through the documentation found in that same book. Because in chapter fourteen (14) – “Other Women, Other Men, Other Affairs”” – we find the following shocking details on Frances Swaggart:


     In late 1990 or early 1991, with less than six months remaining before trial, the defendants apparently began to feel the pressure of the lack of evidence or concrete testimony against Gorman. They finally put forth the name of a second woman who was willing to swear under oath to having had a sexual affair with Gorman.
     Her name was Gail McDaniel, a resident of Shreveport, Louisiana. She claimed she had had sexual intercourse with Gorman in the early 1970s while attending First Assembly of God in New Orleans at its old address on Elysian Fields Street… When Gail was very young, she was confronted by Gorman about allegations that she had made homosexual advances toward another, younger girl in the church.
     Rodney and Frances DuronRonnie Goux, another church officer, was involved when Gorman confronted Gail. This was because the complaining girl was none other than Gaylette Richardson, Ronnie's sister-in-law. This news put a new and somewhat bizarre cast on things, particularly because Ronnie's wife, Lynette, would later confess some sort of sexual encounter with Marvin Gorman to Frances Swaggart. Or such was the rumor. We also believed that Lynette Goux, who had moved into the Swaggart mansion temporarily, may well have been the "other woman" Swaggart mentioned in connection to Frances when he told Catherine Kampen that his wife preferred the love of women to men
     Gail McDaniel was presently attending a church in Shreveport pastored by Reverend Rodney Duron, whose wife, Frances, was, by happenstance, a close personal friend of Frances Swaggart's. Frances Duron also wrote for The Evangelist, which further indicated that a close relationship existed between the families. It was apparent, in other words, that the connection between Gail McDaniel and Marvin Gorman came through the two Franceses, and, hence, through Swaggart himself.
     McDaniel's story was that when she was a young and innocent child attending the First Assembly of God of New Orleans, she was suddenly and wrongfully accused by Gorman and Ronnie Goux of inappropriate sexual conduct with a minor teenager of the same gender four years younger than she. According to McDaniel, Gorman and Goux threatened to turn her over to the police and drive her out of the church; but, Gorman told her, there was an alternative: If she would have sex with him, the entire matter would be forgotten.
     McDaniel went on to state that she was a virgin at the time—most definitely heterosexual—and that Gorman knew this when he coerced her into having intercourse with him on the floor of his office at the church on Elysian Fields Street…
     At the same time, the issue of homosexual behavior continued to emanate from the case, almost like a dark aura that could never be clearly seen or defined. The obvious scenario with regard to McDaniel, for instance, was that she and Frances Duron were connected, and that Frances Duron and Frances Swaggart were connected, and that Frances Swaggart and Lynette Goux were connected. If these connections were sexually based, then what we were viewing was a secret ring of lovers in the very heart of Swaggart's ministerial family. Further, if McDaniel, as we suspected, was either homosexual or at least bisexual, then it was not beyond the realm of possibility that her experience of being deflowered by a minister might well have come at the behest, not of Marvin Gorman, but of Jimmy Swaggart; we knew from Murphree and Kampen, that Swaggart was at least a marginal pedophile, and by her testimony, McDaniel had been both a child and a virgin at the time of the alleged incident. Was it possible that the Swaggarts had somehow persuaded her to come forward and tell of a true incident but to alter the name of the minister in question from Swaggart to Gorman?


Now what you have just read are only a few of the sordid facts concerning the “other women, other men, and other affairs” in the life of “Jimmy and Frances Swaggart”. In fact it’s readily apparent that the women used in the Swaggart’s efforts to defame Marvin Gorman only ended up exposing themselves as being a part of “a secret ring of lovers” in the very heart of Swaggart’s ministerial family. And as it concerns Gail McDaniel, just one of these “lesbians” in “Frances Swaggart’s secret ring of lovers”, here’s what Attorney Hunter Lundy recorded in chapter seventeen (17) – “Give Me A Witness” – of his book:


Gail McDaniel

     One of my concerns all along had been the role that Gail McDaniel would play in the courtroom. I was not surprised to see that defense counsel had designated McDaniel's video deposition for trial, something I desperately wanted to avoid. I wanted this witness, the only "other woman" willing to testify that she had had sexual intercourse with Gorman, to appear live and subject herself to cross-examination. By offering only her videotaped deposition, defense counsel confirmed my original notion that her testimony was a sham, that she never intended to be available for testimony at trial. I was now convinced that she was coached, scripted and paid off in exchange for her deposed testimony.
     I believed the only way a jury would sense McDaniel's lack of credibility was to see her in person. Accordingly, as soon as I became aware that defense counsel planned to use only her deposition and not to call her, I fired off a subpoena. Unless I compelled her appearance in court, she could arrange to be out of the state, could even relocate conveniently without severing personal or vocational ties in Louisiana. Shreveport is immediately across the state line from Texas and isn't far at all from Arkansas; she could even commute back and forth to work, if she so chose.
     In response to this preemptive action, an attorney from Shreveport who had not been previously involved in the case appeared and filed a Motion to Quash the subpoena on the grounds that McDaniel would be going into the hospital for back surgery and would not be available for the trial. A hearing was postponed on that issue, but we immediately sent our man Scott Bailey to Shreveport to put her under surveillance. He learned that she had indeed checked into the hospital there; however, she was released during the trial. We also had an attorney friend of Gorman's, Carl Rice, go to the little restaurant owned by the Assembly of God church Gail attended; he found her waiting tables in the restaurant, work that would not be routinely recommended for a person recovering from back surgery.
     We also learned that after giving her deposition, McDaniel acquired a 300ZX which was originally registered to her good friend, Frances Duron, who was also a close friend of the Swaggarts as well. The car was ostensibly a gift, but it was evident to us that Gail McDaniel had been bought and paid for.
     Based on this information, we objected to the defendants' use of the McDaniel video, and the court ordered her to appear. Her attorney returned from Shreveport and again argued that she had had back surgery, but we produced the medical records showing she had long since been released from the hospital and that we had evidence she had been doing work that would require her to put her back under greater strain than appearing in court possibly could. We, of course, were doubtful that she had ever had back surgery. Even if she had, we thought this was a somewhat extreme length to go to merely to avoid having to repeat her deposition lies in open court.
     Bailes denied her attorney's pleas and ordered her to be in court to give her testimony in person, and she ultimately did appear, though not until the next-to-last week of the litigation.
     When she did appear, McDaniel paraded into the courtroom with an all-male entourage, including a man who appeared to be her bodyguard. She took the stand and represented that another man in her company was her fiancé. We knew this was a lie, since by now we believed that she was a lesbian, had never been married, and never intended to be married, at least not in a heterosexual sense. She stated under oath that her back surgery required this "fiancé" to carry her up the stairs to the courtroom. (It was not until after the trial that we learned that she walked up the stairs under her own steam, immediately in front of four of the jurors.)
     On cross-examination, I was easily able to impeach her on times and dates and the fact that she could not remember anything about the details of the purported coerced sexual encounter with Gorman. Again, she testified that she was a virgin at the time this took place and that it had created a rage that stayed inside of her all of these years and that she had just waited until recently to disclose it to Frances Duron who subsequently disclosed it to Frances Swaggart.
     I asked for information concerning the gift of the 300ZX from Frances Duron, which also produced responses that were vague and evasive. I was itching to establish a sexual connection between her and one of the key players in Swaggart's circle, even to Swaggart himself, but I was unable to find a way to lay the proper foundation in order to make such testimony relevant. Although I did argue in closing arguments that the car and the job in the church cafeteria were payoffs for Gail's perjured testimony.
     In the first analysis, though, McDaniel's story of blackmail and coerced sex was so incredible on its face that it may, in the long run, have helped Gorman more than it harmed him. No one seemed to believe it— not even apparently defense counsel. It was merely further evidence of the maliciousness of which the Swaggarts were capable.
     In spite of my fears to the contrary, and owing in large part to Judge Bailes' ruling that a prima facia case of conspiracy existed, Gail McDaniel proved to be a costly witness to Swaggart's case. Ironically, they and the Durons paid a great deal merely to harm themselves.


So with all that in mind, you should now have a pretty good picture of the “lesbian” Gail McDaniel that was used by the Swaggarts as a “character witness” to substantiate their lies concerning Marvin Gorman. And seeing how “birds of a feather flock together”, we can now readily identify them all as the Romans chapter 0ne (1) “low-life characters” that they really are.


What a mess! Frances Swaggart and her “secret ring of lesbian lovers”: Gail McDaniel, Frances Duron, and Lynette Goux.


Now just in case the volume of information has been a little too much, we have the following short synopsis from Ann Rowe Seaman’s book “Swaggart: The Unauthorized Biography Of An American Evangelist”:


     Gorman had insisted he'd only had one interrupted session with [Lynda] Savage, but after he admitted the Talbot encounter, Lee produced a taped 1989 deposition where he had admitted to three months of kissing and petting Lynette Goux, the Swaggarts' family friend of a decade before. Goux could not be found to testify for her old friends. Gorman tried to explain that the petting was just affection—though at one time he had touched her breast. He protested that he'd confessed to her husband, whereupon Jimmy's attorney dryly made him admit that that confession came eight years later.
     But some queer facts emerged about Goux. First, Hunter Lundy's investigations turned up that there was a close relationship between Goux and Gail McDaniel, the witness who said Gorman had coerced her into sex on his office floor when she was his 18-year-old babysitter. The sex was supposedly in return for Gorman's help in quieting rumors of McDaniel's lesbianism. The accusations of lesbianism, it turned out, came from none other than Lynette Goux's husband, Ronald, who was on Jimmy's board at the time. The girl McDaniel had allegedly approached was Ronald's young sister-in-law.
     Second, Lynette at some point moved into Frances Swaggart's home (around the time she and Ronald were divorced; Ronald ended up testifying on behalf of Jimmy). Was she the parishioner that Jimmy allegedly told Cathy Kampen was Frances' lesbian lover?
      Third, according to Lundy, Gail McDaniel went on to join a church in Shreveport whose pastor's wife was close friends with Frances and who was also named Frances. After Gail gave a deposition in favor of Jimmy, she was given a car—a 300ZX—by Frances Duron, the Shreveport pastor's wife.
     To Lundy, the intimacy of these relationships smacked of possible collusion. Moreover, Lynette Goux managed to duck subpenas and never testified at trial or gave a deposition.


So there you have it: Attorney Hunter Lundy’s investigative findings on “Frances Swaggart” and her “secret ring of lesbian lovers”! Talk about “queer findings”!


Now with all that in mind, you would think it virtually impossible for Frances Swaggart to keep her “secret” so well hidden. I mean, after all, she is a very “public” figure seen all around the globe.


Well, Frances Swaggart may be very discrete… but some of the “women” she has working for her are not. Take for instance Jennifer (Douglas) Richards who works in the front office of the Jimmy Swaggart Ministries headquarters building. She’s the sister of Gabe Swaggart’s wife, Jill, and she’s been there for quite a long time. In other words, Jennifer (Douglas) Richards is very well “liked” by Frances Swaggart. She’s one of “Frances’ girls… otherwise she wouldn’t have kept her job very long after we helped the following “indiscreet picture” to make its rounds on the Internet:


Jennifer And Friend


So there you have a picture-perfect “lesbian” pose from Jennifer (Douglas) Richards and her “friend”. And what’s so disturbing about this particular “spirit” of Jennifer (Douglas) Richards is that she “ministers” to the youth on Gabe Swaggart’s “Crossfire” worship team at Jimmy Swaggart’s ministry.


Crossfire Worship Team


What a nice “spirit” to influence the youth! And as it concerns “ungodly spirits” and Crossfire Youth Ministries, it’s really only the tip of the iceberg! In fact check out “Gabriel Swaggart And His Unholy Worship Team!”, “Joseph Larson’s Sex Sins And Gabriel Swaggart!”, and “Jimmy Swaggart’s Hard Rock Café!” for much more on the subject.


And moving right along we have yet another one of “Frances’ girls” – Nikki Tracy. I mean Nikki Tracy has been with the Jimmy Swaggart Ministries for a very long time! In fact her father Nick Tracy works in the JSM TV department and was likewise mentioned in the “dream” segment of our recent sermonet “Jimmy Swaggart And His Murderous Spirit!


But anyway, here’s a picture of Nikki Tracy (on the left) posing with Nancy Harmon and “BJ” Vavasseur during one of the Jimmy Swaggart services at Family Worship Center:


Nikki, Nancy, and BJ


Nikki TraceySo that’s what Nikki Tracy looks like when she’s in the ministry environment. However, the picture on the right is what Nikki Tracy looks like when she’s “away from it all” and “doing her own thing” on one of those cruise ship “party boats”.


Now with “doing her own thing” in mind, I’ve always wondered why some “women” would want to dress as “men”. And what I’ve been told is that the “women” that want to play the role of the “men” in a “lesbian” relationship will not only do so “sexually” but also in their “attire” and “mannerisms”.


So there you have a brief overview of the person who probably has the single most important job as one of “Frances’ girls”. Because, you see, Nikki Tracy is Jimmy Swaggart’s personal secretary… but yet her orders come directly from his wife. Nikki Tracy is what you might want to call Frances Swaggart’s “watch dog” over her most precious commodity. She keeps the unwanted influences out of Jimmy Swaggart’s life!


I mean, after all, how far would “Jezebel” have gotten without her husband “Ahab”? It was only due to Ahab’s kingship that Jezebel was able to take control and rule over his kingdom.


Jezebel must remain in control… and no outsider will be allowed to interfere!


Sun SwaggartIn fact, just to show you how important Nikki Tracy’s job really is, it wasn’t too many years ago that Frances Swaggart’s biggest threat was Jimmy Swaggart’s very own dad. I mean this was one man that Frances Swaggart needed to completely block out of Jimmy Swaggart’s life… and at whatever the cost!


You see “Sun” Swaggart, as he was called, was adamant about Jimmy Swaggart getting himself a “real woman”… one who would enjoy having sexual relations with her husband. In fact the following is just a sample of what he had to say about Jimmy Swaggart’s wife “Frances” (


Frances is a cold fish. It’s a wife’s duty to keep her man happy. I told my son he should be a man and throw her out! He should leave her and find a REAL woman! I told Jimmy: ‘Get your butt down to the courthouse and file for divorce.’ His problems would be over if he’d leave that woman.


Jimmy Swaggart’s father spoke the preceding words as he lay in a hospital room recovering from an automobile accident. W.L. “Sun” Swaggart – former pastor of Calvary Assembly Of God Church in Baton Rouge, LA – saw God’s “handwriting on the wall”… and it was time for him to speak out about it! Because it was only weeks before that the following two (2) key events had taken place in the life of his son, Jimmy Swaggart:


* The decision is handed down on Marvin Gorman’s “defamation lawsuit” against “Jimmy Swaggart and associates” on September the 12th 1991. The jury rules in favor of Marvin Gorman. They found that Marvin Gorman’s ruination had not taken place at the hands of a single individual, but was rather a deliberate character assassination and defamation orchestrated and performed by the entire Swaggart establishment. After the trial, the jurors made mention of how they had observed the gaudy apparel worn by Frances Swaggart, and the apparent discord between her and Jimmy Swaggart. By contrast, they believed Marvin and Virginia Gorman had a close, loving relationship as seen through their modest, self-effacing appearance.


* Jimmy Swaggart gets ticketed for driving on the wrong side of the road in the red-light district of Indio, CA, on October the 11th 1991. His passenger at the time is a well-known prostitute, Rosemary Garcia. She testified that Jimmy Swaggart had three pornographic magazines on the passenger seat when he picked her up for sex. Each magazine was folded out to a certain page for illustrative purposes. One showed two women having sex together, another showed a man and woman having sex together, and the third showed a woman sexually pleasing herself.


Jimmy Swaggart was in serious trouble with the Lord God Almighty… and his father knew it! In fact, at that time the most influential person in Jimmy Swaggart’s life that could help him get back on the “straight and narrow path with Jesus” was none other his father, “Sun” Swaggart. But yet “there he lay” with broken ribs in a hospital bed after being incapacitated by a tractor-trailer rig. (See “Jimmy Swaggart And His Murderous Spirit!” for more information on “JSM murder” and “eighteen-wheelers”.)


But getting back to this thing about the “spirit of Jezebel”, do you think that just maybe she was a “lesbian” too? I mean, after all, those “twenty-three (23) attributes” of verses eighteen through thirty-two (18-32) of Romans chapter one (1) seem to fit her profile to a “T”.


And speaking of the “controlling power” of Jezebel, Jimmy Swaggart will be the first to admit it: “What Frances wants, Frances gets!” I mean, check it out for yourself and see.


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Jezebel and Ahab”: what a trip! In fact “Jimmy Swaggart REJECTS The Cross Of Christ!” was the first sermonet (I believe) in which the Lord gave me the comparison between “them” and “Frances and Jimmy”… and the following was one of the key verses that He gave me concerning the “two”:


But there was none like unto Ahab, which did sell himself to work wickedness in the sight of the LORD, whom Jezebel his wife stirred up.” (1 Kings 21:25 KJV)


What Frances wants, Frances gets!” And, of course, that’s the very same reason the Lord God Almighty continues speaking “Ezekiel 24:15-18” to Jimmy Swaggart. In fact the following are the words of Jimmy Swaggart concerning what God’s trying to say to him as recorded in our sermonet “Jimmy Swaggart REJECTS The Cross Of Christ!”:


Ezekiel was in Babylonia prophesying, and when his wife died, she was in her 30’s, when she died of a stroke God told the prophetDon’t shed a tear, go about your duties and prophesy to the people as if though she had not died.’ Every time I read that I can hardly get through it. I want to sayGod what are you asking?’ Because He was showing Israel this is so important that muth, nothing must stop the message. Not even the death of the most lovely one in your life Ezekiel.


So for many years now, God Almighty has been telling Jimmy Swaggart, “Forget about your wife Frances; she’s dead!” But yet Jimmy Swaggart has continued to ignore God to the point of leaving out the word “wife” when he quotes the following verse:


“And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:25-27 KJV)


And, of course, it’s because of the fact that Jimmy Swaggart has refused to “get rid of Frances”, as God has ordained, that he’s now preaching “another Jesus and another cross” to replace the one that he refused to take up and carry because of his “wife”:


If any man come to me, and hate not his wife, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.


One of Jimmy Swaggart’s crosses, that he was commanded to carry, was the cross that would bring about his intense suffering as he obeyed God Almighty by getting rid of his wife Frances!


That was what Jimmy Swaggart was “ordered” to do. But since he didn’t do it, the “lesbian spirit” of Romans 1:18-32 has pervaded his ministry… and the following dream proves it:


One morning, not long before i was supposed to get up, i had a dream that I know the Lord gave me because it was RIGHT before I awoke and was in SLOW careful motion! And it was very much of what I had been FEELING/ DISCERNING at FWC..... I dreamed that I was asleep at night and in the darkest DEAD of the night when NO ONE was awake, i was awakened with an urgency to get up and drive up to FWC, so i went right away. When i drove into the parking alot, I could see it was empty... but the lights inside FWC were on.. I walked up to the doors and pulled and they were unlocked. I went in and was in disbelief at what was going on...( not having lived in LA ever before Or ever celebrating Mardi Gras... i don't know what that is,) but in my dream, the atmosphere was as Mardi Gras! People were all over the place- but these ppl were filled with debauchery and evil- they were taking down the momentos and pics on the walls of the Swaggarts and family and laughing and mocking them.. pointing and laughing... some were driving tour trolleys right through the foyer while a guide was pointing and showing them things- like a museum or something! more laughing, mocking, screaming.... Some were partying and opened secret wall panels that showed a fully stocked bar HIDDEN right in the WALLS! I was standing there in HORROR and asked why were they there? This was wrong! (Because then, I thought the Swaggarts and JSM were good and only had a bad evil group inside running things....) Just then, two obese and horryfyingly ugly women wrapped in blankets grabbed me and dragged me into one of those side rooms, which would have been the bookstore- and it was black and dark inside, but i could see the women! They performed a horrible sex act with each other forcing me to watch and laughed maniacally(sp) I was able to tear away from them and escape out of the room and ran out of the church as no one else even noticed me or spoke to me and the dream ended.. then right away, I woke up and had a very deep forboding about it.. because the people there didn't break in... they obviously had the keys to the doors... they all met their in the cover of dark in the middle of the night... like a coven meeting for a ritual....they were unashamed and brazen...i felt vile, filthy and violated for being in THERE WITH THEM! and witnessing what i did!


You see the preceding testimony was from a Sister in the Lord who was attending Jimmy Swaggart’s “Family Worship Center” at the time. And the reason God gave her that dream was to show her the “spirits” that had taken over Jimmy Swaggart’s ministry. It was a warning… it was real… and it was time for her to leave!


Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” (2 Corinthians 6:17-18 KJV)


There you have it! “Frances Swaggart And Her Lesbian Lovers?” and “Swaggart-ites beware!” So for all those to whom this warning might apply, please get the heck out of JSM before it’s too late… and “keep on keeping the faith in Jesus!!!




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